It has been a while since I have heard much from the Loose Change people and Dylan Avery, well over a month. So now just in time for the holiday break the Loose Change team is brought to the media and given the stage to take hold of the moment and present the truth for the public. This is not how to carry the banner of truth. Read the article.

Louder Than Words Dylan Avery and Jason Bermas debate Mark Roberts on Hard Fire with Ronald Wieck

Hard Fire opens with host Ronald Wieck laying the sticky trap for the one-time “kids” who shed their t-shirts and jeans for a Miami Vice Armani look. While giving them at first appearance some semblance of respectability, in fact more so than the crumpled host whose obviously without a mirror or makeup.

Opening the show Wieck explains:
“Just to provide context, um; many critics of the Bush administration feel that, um, he and his inner circle ignored warnings that attacks were on the way. Do you think that is a fair accusation?”

The LC 2 agreed thus sealing the direction of the interview.

This was the end of the game really and you can turn it off, they lose and Wieck has them in his hands with the help of an incredibly persistent and pedantic Roberts. I am not here now to debunk Wieck, nor Roberts, but to critique the inner message.

The main thing to remember is the crisis the government is facing. It is fact that the government and powers have not been able to control the Internet and the flow of information. The reason more than 50 percent of the people distrust the government is plain, the word is spreading and they are desperate to diffuse the threat posed by the Information highway. Billions of dollars have been allocated to that task by the Homeland Security Agency and this is some of the results.

Confusion on the net?

You will hear Wieck beat that drum several times; he knows what he is trying to drill home. His mind is so focused he loses it at one point trying to bring the focus back where he wants it.

So Wieck wants to make sure that the confusion on the net is that:

“There is an actual threat from radical Islam. There are real jihadists out there who mean to do us harm.“

Dylan Avery and Bermas both mumble they agree.

Once again Wieck takes home his goal for the whole interview:
“Too much confusion on the net where people tend to deny the existence of foreign enemies. And, you find yourself wondering do these people simply want us to disarm ourselves, to ignore any threat from abroad. “

Mark Roberts agrees so everyone now is with the government program.

Mark makes a denigrating definition about a “conspiracy movement” that calls itself the “Truth Movement” that “believe that all terrorist acts are really committed by the United States” and points out that Dylan and Bermas did make such claims and goes on to point out that Loose Change has the no plane on flight 93 in Pennsylvania.

The Louder Than Words boys are just not equipped to struggle with this caliber of Cointelpro and did not know they were falling.

Bermas goes on defensive and tries to bring up the FBI’s complicity in the 911 foreknowledge and is quickly quieted by Ronald Wieck with and amazing faux-pax “I am not suggesting that the Oklahoma City bombing isn’t a fascinating subject, but we really do have to the topic at hand 9/11.” Being corrected by all the others to the 93 World Trade Center bombing Wieck goes on “Yeah, I’m sorry the 93 Oklahoma bombing”. So much for narcoleptics.

Dylan Avery finally wakes up from a comatose meditation that has him staring past to the future and goes on to comment about the film he made ONE year ago:

“We made that film essentially as a bunch a kids. That’s, that’s the reality of the situation. We’re a bunch of kids tackling a subject far beyond the scope of any one documentary. I will be the first to admit our film definitely contained errors, it still does contain some dubious claims, and it definitely does come to some conclusions that are not 100 percent backed up by the facts.”

YEOWWW! WOW! Dylan is turning over and what is happening? The next statement by Ronald Wieck allows one a glimpse into the whole reason this interview is taking place.

Wieck tells them:
“I want you to have the opportunity to correct the record, you know, anything that you feel that ahh perhaps, you’d rethink that perhaps you don’t want to commit yourself to any longer? This is a good time to bring that out.

Well, it looks like when the prosecutor has worked out a deal and you have to now stand before the court and lie so you can “cop a plea”.

So Dylan went on to say:
“Loose Change really is not a very fair representation of 911truth”… blah blah”

Wow, this is it. You say this, and you can make films and we will let you be the next Michael Moore. You are seeing the beginning now of the new career for Louder Than Words and they’re in the grown up world. A lot has changed in the year these kids made the film, but ONLY A YEAR. This setup is amazing.

While Dylan goes on to promote the limited hangout film by Hence it is apparently part of the setup as Wieck takes the ball and rolls with it.

“I had a long conversation with Mike Newman of the National Institute of Standards and he pointed out that the survivors, the victims families, the loved ones of the people killed in 911 were instrumental in getting congress to grant more funds to NIST to do their work. And, he said ‘We (NIST) feel that our work should stand as a legacy to these people’. He said the feedback from them was overwhelmingly positive.”

Wieck brings his golden points home on the NIST report “Simply because it is so comprehensive”

Comprehensive “of large scope; covering or involving much; inclusive”

Wieck again points up his main issue for this interview. His jobs worth: “I find on the net a reluctance on the part of conspiracists to engage the specific issues brought up in that report.”

Bermas then distracts back to Pennsylvania trying to get a chance at control of the interview, asking to see the plane parts. 82 percent of the plane is recovered and not one piece has been seen? Yet he allows the conversation to move off to details of debris fields and allows Mark Roberts to start his flying at the speed of a 45-caliber bullet dance.

Roberts, who is famous for allegedly being the agent in the beginning of the 911 Mysteries video compilation then took the stage and showed the kids how a real agent can take control. Dylan sits there staring into space for 90 percent of the interview and we wonder what he might be thinking but think we do not want to know.

Note how Roberts takes the show away even from Wieck. Roberts almost bitch-slaps Wieck upside the head when he tries to interfere.

When Bermas finally asks Wieck if he ever saw the plane in the hanger so that there would be some evidence other than the “word of the government”, Wieck never gets to reply as Roberts move it to “Who have you talked to. “

Dylan continues to stare into space – perhaps hoping to see the future. Dylan? Hello??

Wieck wants to take it to the FAA as he has some connections at the Boston Globe. To prove that there were Arabs on the plane he goes on:

“A point needs to be made here. There’s some evidence that is not going to be available to us, to layman. For example a canard that shows up again and again on Conspirasists sites that there were no Arabs on the planes. Which on its face is absurd. The reality is the names of the hijackers appear on the passenger manifests.”

That canard not being a big enough piece of horse pucks that neither Avery, Bermas or Roberts picks up on he goes on to explain how we all (no normal person) can’t get a passenger manifest and are using the CNN victim list. Wieck states “If you or I try to get hold of a passenger manifest from the FAA we simply cant do it.” But he has a friend at the Boston Globe. Wieck states again, “I asked them look, you published seating positions of the hijackers, how did you know where they were seated?” They said “well, look its not hard we simply got the passenger manifest and these are the seating positions. Now they could do that, we cant.”

No one stops the show. No one stands on the table and reads Wieck the Constitution. No one screams what kind of censorship that is. Nope.

The LC crew misses the whole point and goes on to talk detailed arguments about falsified documents, frauds and lies. They tell Wieck they have nothing to do with flight manifests. Wieck says he knows. Wieck is smiling anyway, a job well done.

I think Dylan has some meeting he has already departed for, as he just did not participate much. Dylan?? You there? Yoo HOO!

Now Roberts came well prepared with pictures, notes and his story well focused. Each time he struck he waited for his moment like a tiger in the jungle. When he grabs his moment he does not let go until he has made his series of points. While I have no sympathy with his story at all I will applaud his performance and this man deserves his paycheck.

Roberts admits several times that he, as he uses “we” when speaking of government held evidence, is part of the government.

The core of this mass media release was to allow Dylan and Bermas to apologize, cop a plea and allow the shills to make their points without much fight. There was no concerted effort by the Louder than Words boys and Dylan’s attention span seemed only there for prepared notes that were given queue messages when to be given. The man said, “Now is the time” and he said his film was crap. What the hell is that all about?

There is much more in this as they trashed professor Jones and the thermite, but I have found the crux and I will outline it again.

This interview is to allow you to hear the government story by a slick professional, true cointelpro, Roberts. Wieck understands his job and followed his instructions. Bringing home the confusion on the Internet and the importance of the illusion of the Arab terrorist. A real move the powers are pushing and sort of giving up on the invisible enemy for a bit. Confusion on the Internet, the war on the Internet and the billion dollars budget to fight it. Where is it going? You are seeing it right there.

When is part 2?