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Fetzer Pulls Plug on 9/11 Researchers

rick's picture
Submitted by rick on Thu, 2007-03-01 22:07

Pulled from todays emails from Jim Fetzer:

"Thanks, Rick you are nauseating, nothing about your assaults and attacks is right and you blow it out your ass. I have DVD's I can recommend but not Rick

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Veronica's picture

Yes ... we've recently seen Jim Fetzer

... in his true colours, I think.

I can only assume he asked us to join his advisory panel in order to dumb you & I down.

I can't think of any other reason, bearing in mind what has happened (or NOT happened, to be more precise) in these past few months.

Well, Jim. Attempting to dumb down Rick & I didn't work. Did it? All that happened is that your true colours have been exposed.

I had a look a the 'Scholars' Website. It is actually cluttered jam-packed full of junk. About the only thing that makes any sense is Coffinman's video ... which doesn't now work, having been 'pulled' by YouTube.

Apart from that, the rest is basically, muddle-headed, confused, "all things to all men", "take your pick of any poison you choose", mickey-mouse, crap.

And he had to nerve to call me 'confused'??????????

On the other hand this site has more real truth & research to offer than Scholars for 9/11 Truth ever did.

For that reason I confer an honourary Ph.D on all those who post good stuff here (you know who you are!). This degree is awarded by the University of Life. Since 9/11 you've all gone 'Emeritus'.

(That is NOT 'sour grapes'. I resigned ... I wasn't pushed ... well, not directly ... only insofar as I could no longer stand Fetzer's utter crap, word salad, and mind-cringing vocal vomit, when interviewing Christine Eberole. I shudder to think of the poisoned chalice that Ms. Eberole took away with her).

I think, overall, this has been a good exercise, Rick. Fetzer (and maybe his handlers?) now knows that there is an ever-widening group of people who don't fall for his crap. Who can still remain totally unbrainwashed ... even after having been on a personal basis with him.

Coffinman's picture

Fetzer has been given enough chances here

Coffinman
Fetzer was greeted cordially here and was given a chance to start acting like a guy with the right intentions.
You all have seen that he couldn't even go through the motions.
He has no time for it and he doesn't see that we are any hinderance to his role.
Rick is, of course spot-on about him.

Fred's picture

Inside every silly little hater lurks a planehugging truthling!

SillySalve for the Albanezered, those catching a bad case of the Fetzers, and the JREFoogled.
Inside Every Hater There's a Planehugging Truthling from Spokane

Fred

Tips's picture

Fred

You live in NYC? I would like to you give DVD.

Fred's picture

Hi Tips, I live in Sri Lanka

But I frequently travel to Zurich. We could meet in Zurich?

Fred

totalinfo's picture

original mesages

from Fetz:

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Thanks for your good work in the past, Rick. I've had enough of you. You are brilliant but your preoccupation with yourself is nauseating. She's taking your stuff out of her work. There was nothing about it that I could see that justifies your relentless assault on her or your more recent attacks on me. Let's put some space between us. I will drop the logo at the top of Scholars but leave the bottom two links. I do admire a lot about you, but sometimes you blow it out your ass.

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If I followed your strict interpretation of the evidence and facts, I would have NO books or DVDs to recommend, not even Rick's, because it includes discussion of thermite/thermate! I cannot be successful in encouraging dealing with these issues by telling the world that the only possessors of the truth about 9/11 are the members of this email list! Indeed, since I am on it, not even that would satisfy your standard. Our problems, I fear, appear to be far more ominous:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17190.htm

So thank you again. You are a fine person. And I wish you well. If you ever want to tell me off again, just send me a message! I will get it! Meanwhile, let us all keep doing everything we can! I fear that time is very short and that evil forces are closing in.

Veronica's picture

Small problem ...

"So thank you again. You are a fine person. And I wish you well. If you ever want to tell me off again, just send me a message! I will get it! Meanwhile, let us all keep doing everything we can! I fear that time is very short and that evil forces are closing in."

... was Fetzer's response to me, not to Rick. Fetzer's dismissal of Rick was nothing short of disgusting.

rick's picture

TotalInfo Why Subinfo?

The thread before the Sofia 911Mysteries reedit was done to it. Maybe you can see how editing works. All words in my original post of a Jim Fetzer quote are in this, editing, taking single words, placing them elsewhere distorted it way beyond it's real intent and was a lesson in what editing can do if done like Sofia, Brad and 911 Mysteries have done.

You will note, that under standard "education 2000" procedure, peers will be punished for the opinionated crimes of a single individual. You are all punished for my abrasive behavior. BUT, he was ONLY LOOKING FOR SOME EXCUSE to cut 911researchers or he would have demanded a resignation from his committee, not just some punishment on all of you. This was done because of flogger pressure as well as Gabriel Day and 911truths new Jones/Floum/Burks/Huffie alliance of new age Jew baiters. He just used me as his opportunity to rid himself of you all. He did not distance himself by kicking me off his advisors, he claims removing you all is distancing himself. Do you see what he is distancing himself from? I do.

So, here it is:

From Jim Fetzer:
"Thanks for your good work in the past, Rick. I've had enough of you.
You are brilliant but your preoccupation with yourself is nauseating.
She's taking your stuff out of her work. There was nothing about it
that I could see that justifies your relentless assault on her or your
more recent attacks on me. Let's put some space between us. I will
drop the logo at the top of Scholars but leave the bottom two links.
I do admire a lot about you, but sometimes you blow it out your ass.

Quoting Rick Siegel :

> There is a vast difference between the discussion of Jones and his
> thermite and the alteration, bastardization and complete screwing
> of original video and audio to bend reality as Sofia did. I did not
> edit Jones' words or his presentation to my own ends.
>
> Did you shake her sweet hand and tell her how wonderful her work
> was? I am sure you did. See how easy it is to forget you shake the
> hand of a disinfo agent and you help her! Everyone was happy, yes?
>
> I think that is the point Jim. You like to make things like "small
> lies for political expediency" to big ones like comparing my
> research to creating a disinfo DVD like she did. Like air as it
> passes your face and you just ignore it and make excuses and
> rationalizations. You cannot expect too many to stay around as you
> "pussy foot" as it were.
>
> It is quite a crock of shit to try and pass off 911Mysteries at
> all after reading and seeing what she did. JUST the way you
> manipulate the truth there makes you "repulsive" to the idea of
> truth. That is, truth without distortion to an end.
>
> And that is what this seems to be about. Just enough truth to keep
> the distortions needed, as 911Mysteries is all about.Looks like
> Jref is right.
>
> No Jim, morally you are bankrupt so just don't worry about it.
> Even if true you would not say anything. A sad truisim you live by.
> Part of your being already and you cannot change as long as you
> "want" something out of it.
>
> Veronica did a lot of work and I am sorry to not have her around.
>
> Rick

rick's picture

Even if True I would Not Say It.

After he took 911researchers.com from the scholars site he continues on:

Quoting Rick Siegel :

> So? Jim chooses " bluster away avoiding the answer "
> I bolded the questions below that you failed to address.
>
> My advice is to get back on the horn and get the answers rather
> than continue in moral bankruptcy. Be concerned with this. It will
> be "enough" when the answers arrive. It will not go away and if you
> do not address it will grow to something you never imagined possible.
>
> Rick
>
> jfetzer@d.umn.edu wrote:
> I talked with her about this in Arizona. She is taking your stuff out.
> As far as I am concerned, that resolves the matter. In my opinion, her
> work, like your work, is making an important contribution. Enough said.
>
> Quoting Rick Siegel :
>
>> Jim
>>
>> On Feb 6, 2007 you wrote to me about 911Mysteries:
>>
>> ?Rick,
>> This is to confirm tomorrow. I have read your critique of
>> "9/11 Mysteries", which causes me concern. Do you have the
>> email address for Sofia? I would like to write her about it.
>> Jim?
>>
>> To wit I then sent you the email address that same day. You have
>> emailed her? I heard nothing about it even after I asked you several
>> times. You have now sat along her side in AZ and the concern seems
>> to have dissapated to nothing? In the meantime did she explain any
>> of the distortions, edits and miscredits on my work? Did she explain
>> why she knew this pervision of my video and still went and
>> reordered 15,000 more to sell (with the help of Gabriel Day and
>> Huffsmidt) since my article appeared? Did she explain why she hired
>> a lawyer instead of explaining or apologizing and showing she cared
>> to make it good?
Somehow I miss the point here Jim.
>>
>> Was your point to obscure this as my "personal something" rather
>> than questioning the lies, perversions and distortions of 911truth
>> video to portray more lies? Was your point that fabrications,
>> alterations, and mutilations of original footage is ok and to be
>> looked away from ? like with the other Zapruder films?
You stating
>> ?your relentless assault on her? clearly marks you as assulting me
>> and protecting the fabricator Jim. Your slip is showing!
>>
>> Will you distance yourself from truth as it bites your butt? I
>> think you might explain to me what her explanation to the edits,
>> distortions, etc were? Or is this again an "even if true I would not
>> say it" thing?
Or will you bluster away avoiding the answer as the
>> insulted cow no longer capable of milk? You certainly never face
>> truth head on so this will be interesting and I do seek those
>> answers from Sofia, Brad and of course yourself.
>>
>> Rick

Veronica's picture

Punishment?

I'm not sure how being banished from 911Scholars.org is any kind of punishment.

More of a relief, I would have thought.

Have you seen the utter junk posted on that site?

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