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this was sitemeter
They created it ..... to begin with..
And the precise manner of their manipulation and sponsorship is certainly worth studying and publicizing.
It's a simple matter of deprogramming.
This one does a beautiful job of it: http://911truthy.org/about.htm
911truthy.org
Yep, one of the better truth sites around.
Independent thinkers are what we need and as I keep showing, there ain't many out there. Some get a glance and start to hold on but freak out that daddy lied so they find some teddy bear to hold onto.
The powers would shut all my sites down if I start to tell you what has to be done. They made the rules so that only an infiltrated, or setup organization is available - legally - to you. Imagine, the rulers tell you the only way you are free to protest their tripe is to sign a paper and mail it in. The only way you can change it is to go to a 911truth conference and buy one of their cinnamon coated DVDs. If you actually start to educate for the needed change you will not be around long.
I have four DVDs full of information that I wish I could post. One day.
More appropriate - Infiltrated by government religious fanatics
in what is a textbook CIA play to control truth, reform, revolution, and the people.
Bush and the Mormons (The 'Other' Zionists - The UnNoted Threat)
By Suzan Mazur
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0410/S00296.htm
Religious Cultism Of The 'Chosen Peoples': The Big Picture Of Tyranny Since The Dawn Of Mankind
By Ed Ward, MD
http://www.rense.com/general80/religo.htm
Joneses, 911 'Truth' Still Silent On Proven 'Anomalies'?
Will the Joneses and 911 'Truth' Orgs Ever Legitimately Address the Referenced, Verifiable, Proven Facts that Are, In Total, Only Consistent With Micro ThermoNuclear Usage and which Have Never Been Noted or Addressed on a Scientific Level?
Steven Jones, Alex Jones, 911 'Truthers' Orgs, Still Seem to Be Denying, Misrepresenting and Doing Their Best to Ignore the Following Facts and More. Why? This is a profound and crucial question.
http://www.911researchers.com/node/1077
The answer is: " Not only 'No' but 'Hell NO!!!' "
After the 9/11 Cover-Up & PsyOp Perps created the so-called 9/11 Truth Movement, there was no more need to infiltrate it. Some or much of our thinking (and methods of thinking & acting) infiltrates, infests, and infects ourselves. We do it to ourselves. They don't need to help.
Nevertheless, what some may be missing is that "The Government" was NOT the prime 9/11 perp. "The Government" also did NOT ask the 9/11 Cover-Up & PsyOp Perps to create the so-called 9/11 Truth Movement.
Bush, Cheney & the Neo-Cons did NOT have enough control & power to do 9/11 and to cover it up. ALL of the oligarchs of the NWO/G8+ had to be involved. But that may be a subject for a separate post.
The so-called 9/11 Truth Movement is engaged in a self-defeating & self-eating 9/11 Truth Wars food fight. The so-called 9/11 Truth Movement is largely self-DEAF-eating and self-DUMB-eating. Just deaf & dumb -- by design.
Question: When your worst enemy is committing suicide, what should you do? Answer: Prolong it -- So that no one else gets heroic.
If you agree, then would you please change your vote? With electronic voting, we (and they) can at least do that.
"Never express yourself more clearly than you are able to think." -- Niels Bohr
I was re-reading all my posts on grogger.
And I could see a very clear strategy.
One by one pick off the most effective campaigners and replace them all with a nodding dog.
tinfoil
they might, but i think they operate by ridicule. relying on the slice of the population to never think for themselves. the wolves best trick was to make the sheep keep an eye on each other
What's the Point
What's the point of poll that is deliberately biased and meant to produce a certain response? Further reinforcement of an implausible idea I presume?
Of course the government tries to infiltrate its adversaries
The people who answered no or maybe to this poll are very naive. The point is not whether or not the government spies. Duh! The issue is what to do about it.
I've spoken on nonviolence at national 911 conferences in 2005, 2006, and 2007.I stand against personal attacks in either direction. The Webfairy was guest at my home last September. I strongly believe that a real investigation should consider the evidence at 911researchers.
Gene Sharp, considered the Clausewitz of nonviolent warfare, holds that the primary danger of police agents is not their lying or their spying, but the mistrust they generate among genuine activists.
Gandhi told his supporters who thought they knew someone was spying that they should tell the spy everything they knew. The point is to not be afraid of what the government knows. That's easier for our movement because almost 100% of our activity is public education. There are no secrets necessary.
I have no doubt there are undercover agents on both sides.
The accusation of someone as being disinfo is the ultimate proof that someone is paranoid. How to know with certainty what goes on in someone's mind should be obviously impossible. Criticize what others do and what they say. If someone is wrong their posts are at least misinformation. Consider avoiding the term disinformation.
Consider this article at 911truth.org
Monday, February 5 2007 A Commitment to More Civil and Effective Collaboration in the 9/11 Truth Movement viewed at this link
http://911truth.org/article.php?story=20070205131526863
I originated the article but the current wording is more eloquent.
I think the no planers are in error, but I'm not sure. I just believe it's harder to talk to new people from a no planes perspective. I don't feel comfortable with technical questions and don't currently have time to fully investigate the plane/no plane issue. I hope to spend more time on this question after I catch up on my rent and other finances.
You may reach me at davidslesinger@yahoo.com. My website is 911courage.org
Arrested Dave Slesinger Stylee
Dave likes to get peacefully arrested. As if the badge of honor is to get yourself registered, printed, DNA'd and controlled is a wonderful goal rather than dismantle an overlord system. If I were the supreme overlord I would commend your idea there David.
To each his own. David, may that leash be long enough to please you.
I find your statements:
"I have no doubt there are undercover agents on both sides.
The accusation of someone as being disinfo is the ultimate proof that someone is paranoid. "
These are complete doublespeak. You prove the understanding of the relentless pursuit of control and direction from all side but to put a claim would be paranoid? Dave, you are a gem. Thanks to Zeus and Gilgamesh that you can be so transparent at times.
If the readers still suck the swill of the pigs holding them under corporate sponsored rule and want to follow the rules the corporate rulers have laid out then David seems to know them. He will get you safely arrested and put through the process.
I encourage you to contact David as he can show you how to work within the corporate rules and system to get your safely taken away, locked after they suck your juices and paint your fingers. You might even make the news, and everyone might now know you. But one group for sure will have a lot more information on you and you just walk in. That is why they love you so much and there will be no trouble this way. Just a back door to the same slaughterhouse.
I differ in that I endorse the dismantling of that corruption and do not see exposing, or submitting, to their matrix give me any benefit at all. An unknown enemy is far more effective than one who has willingly given all his details.
When you see disinfo, mark it. It exists and as David FIRST pointed out should not be a sign of paranoid but of knowledgeable acceptance of your situation. Trust no one. We can still do it as individuals. Anyone who tells you can't see disinfo is full of it. It will manifest as it always does. Just don't forget it! That is what they depend on.
Who has the largest budget to spend containing dissent? That should be the next poll.