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"Hardfire" TV 3-program 9/11 debate: FETZER / ROBERTS / WIECK

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Submitted by Jim Fetzer on Wed, 2007-04-25 14:16

Hardfire SCHOLARS FOR 9/11 TRUTH / FETZER / ROBERTS / WIECK / 1ST PROGRAM Gary Popkin - 28 min - Apr 17, 2007 - small full starsmall full starsmall full starsmall full starsmall half star (25 ratings)

James H. Fetzer, of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, debates Mark Roberts, prominent 9/11 researcher, in this first of three programs. Ronald Wieck, a well informed ...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5692853335910175330

Hardfire SCHOLARS FOR 9/11 TRUTH / FETZER / ROBERTS / WIECK / 2ND PROGRAM Gary Popkin - 29 min - Apr 17, 2007

James H. Fetzer, of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, debates Mark Roberts, prominent 9/11 researcher, in this second of three programs. Ronald Wieck, a well informed ...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5795767092800734293

Hardfire SCHOLARS FOR 9/11 TRUTH / FETZER / ROBERTS / WIECK / 3RD PROGRAM Gary Popkin - 28 min - Apr 17, 2007 - small full starsmall full starsmall full starsmall full starsmall full star (1 rating)

James H. Fetzer, of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, debates Mark Roberts, prominent 9/11 researcher, in this third of three programs. Ronald Wieck, a well informed ...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7639955686054850079

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brianv's picture

ls-dyna

Jim you are a physicist, and the researchers here have shown that the footage of planes are fake. Why dont you take the OCT'ers on headlong, instead of pussyfooting around the plane v noplane argument?

When the designers at Boeing realised that they could fly a hollow aluminium tube through hardened steel walls, do you think they contacted the military with this wonderful new application for redundant aircraft?

I propose we commision an independent simulation using LS-DYNA now that we have the building plans.

Watch them squirm!

brianv's picture

No Planes Exhibit A

Maybe this will help Jim.

brianv's picture

waste of time

This is a waste of time and energy Jim, I'm sorry.

My blind grandmother can see that the videos of planes hitting the WTC are fake.

How can one plane crash into the realtively puny Pentagon and erupt in a ball of flame and another waltz through a giant steel and concrete mesh building of enormous strength? You cant have your cake and eat it.

Kinetic energy flows BOTH ways in a collision. A large portion of that energy is lost in friction and sound. The plane would have come to an abrupt stop in 0.2 seconds, with maybe a little local damage to the building.

I asked this question on erstwhile ScholarsFT

Which is heavier? A ton of coal or a ton of feathers?

What would have happened if 100ton of feathers had hit the building at ^500mph? Would they penetrate the giant steel loadbearing walls, smash several floors to pieces for a distance of 155 ft and snap the core in half?

How did a hollow aluminium tube do this then?

Answer please!

zark's picture

hard fire... bs

second part begins about OBL.

Jim .. no hijacked planes takes OBL out of the argument immediately.

You sat there arguing political nonsense with the opportunity to sideswipe the entire argument.

You didnt. You are aware of the fake footage and you are aware that the 'hijacked planes' are the only link between the 3000 murders and OBL.

rick's picture

Osama In a Cave not the Picture

Osama was in a cave playing saviour and not part of the plan. When the Taliban asked for any evidence the US may have they provided only mass media and the Taliban did not accept that. Assertions are meaningless withot evidence. At that point in time Osama claimed no part but praised the actions.

Instead of providing any real evidence the US government brought the American people to war over the medias "propaganda" instead of evidence.

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