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TV Fakery Censorship Campaign Spreads to Above Top Secret

Fred's picture
Submitted by Fred on Fri, 2007-06-08 04:50


"Rick Siegel, Jim Fetzer, Nico Haupt, Coffinman, bsregistration, Killtown , etc etc now have the official condemnation of the staff of ATS. I guess it is time to go back to learning about UFOs and Conspiracy Theories from Fox News and the BBC.

"What we (staff and memebrs) have noticed about this group is that their individuals (namely, Rick Siegel, Jim Fetzer, Nico Haupt, Coffinman, bsregistration, Killtown , etc etc) engage in what they hope is an IMPENETRABLE approach in debating. They appear to have have no REAL interest in defending or discussing their theories. Instead they use provocative ideas and inflammatory language ("shills" for example) to bait people into extended debates filled with intentionally frustrating diversions, insults and accusation." -- Offical ATS Staff posting
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread286147/pg1

The condescending attitude of self-proclaimed SkepticOverlord means that you'll have more chance of breaking new evidence of a conspiracy in your hometown newspaper than you will on ATS.

One-sided moderation permits insults and personal attacks but it's now taboo there to post on the subject of TV Fakery. Even the staff moderators make personal attacks in their "information channel" posting.

Due to member demand, the 9/11 forum is now under close staff scrutiny.

Any inappropriate comments, insults, topic derailment, or trolling will result in immediate posting ban or account termination.

We've received an overwhelming number of member complaints since the topic of "TV Fakery" splashed on the ATS scene a few days ago. Most of the member complaints are dealing with the trollish nature of the new member(s) promoting these theories, and a handful of supporting characters.

When participating with the members of AboveTopSecret.com, there are certain standards of conduct and cooperation that are not simply expected, they are demanded.

We seem to be among several sites targeted by a recently formed "9/11 Research" group who espouses a particularly provocative theory of "no planes at the WTC" and "TV Fakery."What we (staff and memebrs) have noticed about this group is that their individuals (namely, Rick Siegel, Jim Fetzer, Nico Haupt, Coffinman, bsregistration, Killtown , etc etc) engage in what they hope is an IMPENETRABLE approach in debating. They appear to have have no REAL interest in defending or discussing their theories. Instead they use provocative ideas and inflammatory language ("shills" for example) to bait people into extended debates filled with intentionally frustrating diversions, insults and accusation. Their activity in ATS threads prove they are disinterested in fact, reason, logic, or evidence while attempting to portray themselves as passionately convinced of their own highly questionable positions.

While we have a long standing tradition of supporting passionate debate of nearly any topic, we insist that all participates do so with respect and decorum. Spamming our forum with multiple topics and ignoring well-presented questions demonstrates no intent to show respect. And calling ATS members who disagree with their position "shills" lacks the required decorum.

From this point forward, ONE TV FAKERY THREAD WILL REMAIN OPEN.
This one: SEPTEMBER CLUES exposes 911 TV Fakery
The opening posts of all "TV Fakery" threads will be modified to direct users to this thread. And likewise, this remaining open thread's first post will contain links to important questions raised by our members.

New "TV Fakery" or "No Planes" threads based on the work of this group will be deleted. Please use the existing thread indicated above to add any new material to the discussion. Repeated attempts to start new threads may result in account termination.

It's unfortunate that a habitually malicious group has seen fit to act this way over events that deserve thoughtful debate, open research, and most of all collaborative participation. We've added additional staff to the 9/11 forum, and we'll be watching closely. Members, please help us by using the new "post alert" button when you see issues you believe we should be aware of.

And before we hear potential complaints of an uneven approach to moderation, YES, long-standing members will indeed be favored over the new participants who have shown no respect.

Thank you in advance for your cooperation.
The staff of AboveTopSecret.com

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Fred's picture

Dylan Avery: Don't Ask Questions, You'll be Gone for Good!

Anything that doesn't promote the official alternative theory endorsed by "Loose Change" is taboo. Check out this posting from Dylan Avery threatening his members. His handlers sure keep Dylan on a short leash these days, and he apparently loves it.

Muzzle that boy, Dylan! Don't ask questions, don't Investigate 9/11. Let's achieve truth through censorship.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=10551...

ewing2001's picture

...lol, in 5.x years i

...lol, in 5.x years i didn't even sign in over there at ATS for one single second.
It's hard to be a shill, they have to ban and talk a lot ;

9/11VideoMashups (Roundup 06/07 :
"Socialservice" with groundbreaking DokuMash, Flagwaver "the50s60s70s" with recreated 'Ghostplane' CGI, ProtestMashies against LC etc...

http://911videomashups.com/node/84


...
http://911videomashups.com/node/84

rick's picture

ATS All The Shills

ATS = All the Shills
ATS = All Tinfoil Shite

Above Top Secret, ATS is a site dedicated to Elvis, his fans and Reynolds Aluminium is not the place to try and get your hero badges. It is an honor to be picked by the All Troll Syndicate as someone who does not play their games.

When massive personal artistic icons are the only way one can obtain any credibility it is less than sad.

ewing2001's picture

Cool new Verrazano Bridge

Cool new Verrazano Bridge Recut by PollenB,
here with more BBC footage [i think] where the bridge even
moves stronger on the right side
[not sure if i saw that before] ;

"Verranzo Adrift"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdsdaOFv07Y
Added: June 08, 2007
From: PollenB

ewing2001's picture

...Mission Accomplished, j/k

...Mission Accomplished, j/k lol ;

June 8, 2007, 8:49AM
Paris Hilton out of jail

Ningen's picture

Must not think for myself

Why would anyone put up with that?

It's interesting that many of the comments are about how well made the video is, and how that's a bad thing.

The comments at Loose Change trying to explain this away are sad.

One of the guys says that he doesn't believe the video because of the fuselage piece found on top of WTC5. This piece supposedly passed through the corner of the core of WTC1, then out the other side through the steel external columns, with enough residual velocity to land on the roof of WTC5. There's no way that could happen, even if it could have entered the building intact in the first place.

Therm8's explanation of the nose is bizarre -- a penetrator munition just ahead of the plane. Anything but faked video!

CB_Brooklyn's picture

any ideas on how to mass spread no-plane truth?

The time has really come to get the word out on this already.

I don't know what 'disasters' the PTB are planning, or what they're capable of executing without being stopped. But I get the feeling that time is of the essence.

rick's picture

No Big Icon No Big Deal

I guess SkepticOverload was pissed I did not allow him that 120 by 240 pixel overthruster icon so people could believe him. He must feel naked.

Killtown's picture

ATS just banned me

See here.

ewing2001's picture

06/08: 9/11Videomashups

06/08: 9/11Videomashups Roundup
(PollenB-More Verrazano Bridges, Paris Mashup promoted at Houston Chronicle)

http://911videomashups.com/node/85

see also
9/11VideoMashups (Roundup 06/07)
http://911videomashups.com/node/84

etc...

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