
Open research to uncover the truths surrounding events of September 11, 2001.


"Bye Quest. You're gone for good."
--Dylan Avery
Proving once and for all that Dylan Avery and Loose Change have zero regard for the truth, and actively seek to censor it on behalf of the fake "9-11 Truth Movement" longtime Loose Change moderator Quest has been banned for posting a link to Rense.com's front page where documentary Septemeber Clues is mentioned.
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=10681
See actual posting below.
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dylan avery
Posted: Jun 10 2007, 04:23 PM
a virus wearing shoes...
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Bye Quest. You're gone for good.
Headhunter
Posted: Jun 10 2007, 04:21 PM
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Why would anyone be proud about NPT going anywhere, or "making" a big splash. We ALL know how damaging it could be to the movement. Definitely NOT something to be proud of Quest.
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FemaFunCamp
Posted: Jun 10 2007, 04:22 PM
Advanced Member
Join the censorship-free forum: 911movement.org
We won't censor you for your theories like Loose Change does:
http://www.911movement.org
"Banning and Judging" -that's what gets me!
Until now, I have gone way out of my way to project a 'content-neutral' position with certain 9/11 superstars. I've carefully not addressed my personal opinions about any of the louder voices in this so-called 'movement.' But, Avery and Alex Jones and of course our own flim-flam man certainly have earned a pie in the face!
This position is predicated on the fact that I'm no Kurt Nimmo at the typewriter, and certainly no match for any of you in relation to my time committments, herein. Essentially, for Avery, it's a matter of "the bigger they come the harder they fall." And, anyone in pursuit of a cinema dream would be proud to garner 10M -hits. And, a chance to play with the big boys.
I know, I live in a 'pre & post world' of my own making, which is essentially consistent with the role of critic and *still* photo-editor. There are no people here, only shadows, outlines, and sihlouettes, (fr.sp? I'm not allowed to speak in France,) literally used as props, and elements of scale. I can't imagine being in any situation, or any town, with more than 25 people visibly discernable at any one time. -That's the impact that 9/11 actually has had on me, and any future output, (vis-a-vie, shooting a scene in video) clearly would have zero relational basis in 'reality,' of fact or storytelling.
My story? It's like VietNam, with no Hendrix, and no hippies. Visiting London with no soundtrack, wondering why anyone would have ever bothered having crossed the channel at all. My problem is that I do like sheep. Hillsides covered with real sheep. Places where one's worst enemy is a garden snake, or perhaps a bed of nettles like this one...
[Yeah! Bruce-dem-Lee Stylee grants me -6 points for my irreverent post.]
-BANNED! /////-BANNED!/////-BANNED!///// :)
i was banned
that thread was left hangin at loose change for a week, then BAM!!. one of the moderators must have woken up. banned.
i made a video. i'll be back to link it.
Dylan posting photoshopped enhanced Screenshot?
check this out:
And he calls it "lookmomaplane" though i recall this association from an *amateur* footage voice-over dialogue,
not from this related 'footage' ;
Plus the screenshot is extremely good quality.
What is Dylan's source and why has this CGI aircraft apparently some whiter dots around a much darker surface?
from:
http://www.bloglines.com/myblogs_display?sub=3568&site=0
CoOpt Alert? SepClues hits Planehugger RENSE
(see also http://www.911researchers.com/node/571#comment-4332
ALERT! 19 questions for SocialService already stolen!
http://www.911researchers.com/node/571#comment-4332
Ex-Forum Moderator Quest calls out Dylan Avery over censoring TV-fakery
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=10681)
UPDATE: Avery bans next member and former moderator Quest:
dylan avery Bye Quest. You're gone for good. Posted: Jun 10 2007, 04:23 PM
(ed: RENSE link brought additional 8-9000 hits, see
Views: 15,084 http://www.livevideo.com/socialservice )
Dylans pic at:
"... Posted: Jun 10 2007, 09:03 PM... [posted image]
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=10681)
contradicts:
fresh screenshot comparison:
compared with fresh YT screenshot of 'NBC4 feed', officially provided by NBC4 Chopper, "owned by Horsham Valley Airways"
http://www.wnbc.com/news/3269249/detail.html
[check http://killtown.911review.org/2nd-hit.html ]
btw, interesting timing, also just announced on myspace connected to Rob Balsamo:
"...This Thursday night, June 14th, Rob Balsamo from "Pilots for 911 Truth" and the one and only David Ray Griffin will be joining me on the program with a BREAKING NEWS article! I cannot get into specifics....what I can say is that it is a HUGE story for the 911 truth Movement!..."
[unconfirmed]
Video Title: the divebomber
Video Title: the divebomber shot
Channel: genghis6199
the divebomber shot
http://www.livevideo.com/genghis6199
Added: 7 minutes ago
see also:
http://www.youtube.com/mysticalgroove
http://www.livevideo.com/media/commentmedia.aspx?cid=83ABC136C2B9426FBF7...
[Posted 2 minutes ago by ewing2001]
wow, interesting. I can't recall the additional dive frames of this. What's mysticalgroove's source? I assume he or genghis also zoomed into it, but that's legitimate, just askin, who was who? good job, good finding ;
seems mysticalgroove edited
seems mysticalgroove edited 3 diff. version
[added 6, 7 and 8 hours ago],
his last update has also more comparisons:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_cfDWYMXdo
9/11 United 175 Nose Dive Bomber
http://www.youtube.com/mysticalgroove
[apparently podhugger alert; ]
Ban all the researchers,you can say whatever stupid thing u want
If he thinks that little mosquito thing in the upper right is a "plane," I really feel more sorry for him than I ever did before.
The quality of the image being so extremely good when compared with others available, maybe you can see Rose Arce on the ferryboat?! You can certainly see the white blurry pixels clustering around the "mosquito" that are the mark of a photoshop job!
It's easy not to do research, to be a know-nothing and show-off to your fans, when you ban all the video researchers? Anybody who can talk back to you and perhaps point out your gross mistakes is gone. It's bubble, gull and bilk, not truth? Surrounded by fearful yes-men?
No extant vids show "the mosquito" coming from anywhere close to the direction shown in the new still released by Avery. (Except perhaps that questionable still-shot allegedly taken by the young woman in New Jersey, Cathy Cacicedo, who later did the Latino rap music video? )
Anyway, if he's gonna use an example, why use one that so obviously contradicts the others? Why not just claim the mosquito is a piece of dirt on the lens and leave it at that...and just say that in that particular picture the plane wasn't there yet, or was blocked by the Tower. Save some face, Mr. Avery.
He's so obviously not studied any of this and doesn't even realize he needs to.
Dylan Avery is really very stupid. But just not stupid enough to have had his weakness become obvious to himself. He's just smart enough to have gained enough ego, which gives him the self-esteem, to miss it. Maybe if he had a better sense of his limitations he would get where he needs to go, and it would be better for us all.
I thought it was stupid of him to make his mistake about Rose Arce so publically...now he's doing more dumb stuff.
Did everyone fail math or what? There is exactly one trajectory in the case of a plane. If the plane is a real object flying into the South Tower there is of necessity one and only one trajectory. The fact that is demonstrably not the case with these South Tower hit videos and stills does not seem to bother many people. In fact, most don't even seem to recognize that if there is not one and only one trajectory, then the cluster of videos, clips and stills cannot be real . Or at most, one group of them, or one of them, perhaps can be.
However, the fakery becomes more difficult if you have to excise the real plane in order to insert the fake one. Why would anyone do that? Not one of them look real, in any case, once they are studied. Each, in some version, has a flaw or more. Why is there no good shot? If there were so many thousands of cameras, as alleged? Why doesn't the "plane" crash? Obviously the conclusion, if the videos were faked, is that there was no plane.
new cool seatnineb
new cool seatnineb mashie:
CGI vs 9/11
CGI vs 9/11
Video Title: CGI vs 9/11
Channel: Seatnineb
http://www.livevideo.com/Seatnineb
Goodbye Sopranos, Goodbye
Goodbye Sopranos, Goodbye LooseChange,
same mafia, same stink ;
"9/11 Loose Change 'Cuban Crisis'" (Screwhead Fresh Kills Soprano Mix) 12:33
March 27, 2007
http://www.dailymotion.com/ewing2001/video/x1kiig_911-loose-change-cuban...
9/11 Loose Change "Cuban Crisis" (Screwh
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9/11 Loose Change "Cuban Crisis" (Rosalee/Peggy Spring Dub feat. GeoKarras/Zeph) 12:33
March 27, 2007
"9/11 LC 'Cuban Crisis'" (RosPeg Spring)
Uploaded by ewing2001
nbc4
http://www.archive.org/details/nbc200109110831-0912