This is the video of the helicopter identified in 911 Eyewitness as "chopper 4". This is NOT WABC CHOPPER 4! I have given "Dave Shaw" the video from the inside of that helicopter. It shows the winch I talked about and even the guy in the sort of jump suit (sans helmet) getting out of the copter as North Tower goes down (they had already landed). I asked him and Blue Star Media Group (whose web site NEVER made claim or mention of 911 Eyewitness http://www.bluestarmediagroup.com/ ) to make a video showing "chopper four" with an insert of what I found of the inside of that chopper. It has been 3 months and the short clip has not been made.
I have put together what I could. I wanted to have a side by side showing the copter and when it goes black and cuts out so it can better illustrate points.
Some of the points being:
The video from inside the 911 Eyewitness numbered Chopper 4 cuts off during its hovering when I saw them hanging out on the winch.
Where is the complete original?
How did this news agency get that access?
Why did they edit out the helicopter flying by during the North Tower Destruction?
Can you add more points? That is all I come up with in the 5 minutes to post this.
So this has not to be confused with the official chopper 'no.4' from W-ABC7. thx for clearing this up ;
I would like to see one day a special video [mash-] edit of all '9/11 EyeWitness' Choppers (apprx. 8-12 acc. to your counting), because we have to identify all of them, incl. where they did come from.
I personally link all of them to FCS, *impostering* media choppers, as also confirmed in one case by delGiorno (ABC), who claimed they didn't use WESCAM at all.
At 4:27, is that the North Tower impact hole? Why is it obscured in the upper left corner of the screen? Are there other shots of the hole in the video? (I can't tell the directions well.)
Anybody who has the time and will should compile the various scar photos. There are 8 faces of WTC 1 and WTC 2 and we should take inventory of pictures and videos of all 8 faces.
I suspect that the "cookie cutter" holes in the tower are more of a Magical NIST Photoshop Extravaganza than any sort of objective reality, but that's just a hunch. It's never clear to me when I see a scar photo which face of which tower I'm supposed to be looking at.
I reckon that some rigorous analysis of the scars will yield some interesting results.
I have another. The elevators. Why did all of them quit functioning? My theory is that it was to keep the firemen from getting up to the "impact" floors quickly and seeing what was really going on. 9/11 Commission claimed it was fireballs shooting down the shafts, and firemen's fears of getting stuck in an elevator. Seems hard to believe they could at least not gotten up to the 44th floor, instead of schlepping up the stairs -- didn't those 1-44 elevators have separate shafts?
i know the two scars apart now. they do both look similar in some ways though. the exit holes look very similar too. my best key for looking at all aspects is the smoke. i always look for direction of smoke trail. it all ways crosses the south tower and heads south east. this is also why good shots of the 175 scar are harder to get in good quality. the smoke is overhead and that side of the building is in shade. i have a clip of the north tower exit hole. which is very rare. but it is from the cheney shot. we see it all the time. but cos it's in the shade we don't look at it. and if we do it looks exactly like the south tower exit hole [ larva disintegration spot]
Where is the evidence that
Where is the evidence that this was "chopper 4"?
Did you watch?
Did you Watch the video?
...okay i am hearing
...okay i am hearing you.
You made it more clear in the description at YT:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=g3qVQIVRQPA
"...helicopter called Chopper four in 911 Eyewitness..."
So this has not to be confused with the official chopper 'no.4' from W-ABC7. thx for clearing this up ;
I would like to see one day a special video [mash-] edit of all '9/11 EyeWitness' Choppers (apprx. 8-12 acc. to your counting), because we have to identify all of them, incl. where they did come from.
I personally link all of them to FCS, *impostering* media choppers, as also confirmed in one case by delGiorno (ABC), who claimed they didn't use WESCAM at all.
FCS 2000 Contractors -the final 9/11 teams?
http://www.911researchers.com/node/653#comment-4941 ff...
FCS Training, Simulation, Imagery and Team Ops
"Training and Simulation"
http://www.defense-update.com/topics/sim/index.html
"real-time, visualizing simulation software"
http://www.defense-update.com/finance/c/cae_07.htm
Loch?
The chopper looked like a Loch (Light Observation Helicopter) sometimes called a recon chopper
they can be armed but not heavy duty
MAYBE it was used as command and control???
the Lt Cols in Vietnam flew around in Loch's as did Intell.
The dude walkin on the roof looked like he was packing
Off topic, but . . .
The Israelis did it! No, the Pakistanis did it!
http://911blogger.com/node/9868
Interesting that this was shown on Israeli TV, though. (At least it looks that way.) It was never shown here, was it?
North Tower impact hole
At 4:27, is that the North Tower impact hole? Why is it obscured in the upper left corner of the screen? Are there other shots of the hole in the video? (I can't tell the directions well.)
Scar Formation: Inventory and Cataloging Needed
OK all you cyber-sleuths out there in Netland:
Anybody who has the time and will should compile the various scar photos. There are 8 faces of WTC 1 and WTC 2 and we should take inventory of pictures and videos of all 8 faces.
I suspect that the "cookie cutter" holes in the tower are more of a Magical NIST Photoshop Extravaganza than any sort of objective reality, but that's just a hunch. It's never clear to me when I see a scar photo which face of which tower I'm supposed to be looking at.
I reckon that some rigorous analysis of the scars will yield some interesting results.
Fred
Good proposal
I have another. The elevators. Why did all of them quit functioning? My theory is that it was to keep the firemen from getting up to the "impact" floors quickly and seeing what was really going on. 9/11 Commission claimed it was fireballs shooting down the shafts, and firemen's fears of getting stuck in an elevator. Seems hard to believe they could at least not gotten up to the 44th floor, instead of schlepping up the stairs -- didn't those 1-44 elevators have separate shafts?
getting familiar
i know the two scars apart now. they do both look similar in some ways though. the exit holes look very similar too. my best key for looking at all aspects is the smoke. i always look for direction of smoke trail. it all ways crosses the south tower and heads south east. this is also why good shots of the 175 scar are harder to get in good quality. the smoke is overhead and that side of the building is in shade. i have a clip of the north tower exit hole. which is very rare. but it is from the cheney shot. we see it all the time. but cos it's in the shade we don't look at it. and if we do it looks exactly like the south tower exit hole [ larva disintegration spot]