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Theologian David Ray Griffin Explains Why New World Order is a Good Thing

rick's picture
Submitted by rick on Sun, 2007-09-30 12:17

Early this week theologian David Ray Griffin took to the podium to pontificate about the definition of "anarchy" and the need for a one-world order to keep the people ruled.

If there was ever a moment of reckoning from cult leaders this is your eye-opener. Watch this video!

The soft one world order is working hand in hand, as they have through history, to herd the flock to the ruler

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zark's picture

NWO

i wonder how Alex Jones will react to the man?

The speech, posted, has so much to comment on;

1) theologian speaking of 'anarchy' in a materialist sense !!! wtf
2) problems coming from 15th, 16th century -- hmmm he is talking of Protestant revolution. He is catholic and loyal to Rome.
3) Thinking for oneself has caused the worlds problems -- Dr you are a staunch fundamentalist catholic servile to The Pope and you believe that free-will is detrimental to the planet.
4) Living with the planet in a sustainable way - oh, this is a new one on me. Seems the NWO will use natural science to condition behaviour and repress liberty.
5) Democratic world government will remove all the ills of the planet -- dr, dr, dr the world government and world religion has been the plan for centuries. duh

Imperialism hiding behind democracy hiding behind theology.

Fascism ladies and gentleman, Dr Nuts, wants it to 'save the planet'.

the sermon ends

rick's picture

Zark on the Money

Zark, you must be as warped as I am. I see almost the same thing there, and more.

This is just another example of the religious cults method to work with the rule. But it is deeper. The fact that he defines "anarchy" in terms of "chaos" rather than from the root definition which translates "without domination".

I am writing a paper on how obscured and tortured the powers have made the term. It actually is the only pure term for "self-rule" as all the others depend or exist with outside rule (or rulers). Leaders as it may be. Anarchy is without leaders, without outside subjugations. Freedom actually is anarchy.

They are also tying that into the definition of Liberty, which they have also tied to negativity. The fact that the bad doctor has claimed that people are too immature to decide or direct themselves should wake a few, but I am sure they will find a way to not hear that. Like the 9/11 fools who think Ron Paul thinks it was an inside job they will not even listen to the man - they will make something more convenient up.

dbeach's picture

NWO

from Angies site where she has the interchange with DRG.

I did hear him on AJ a few yrs ago

he danced around the topic of CFR and his pal Richard Falk

he is a high priest of the NWDisorder

CodyDeeds's picture

lol, I was in Columbus for

lol, I was in Columbus for that part of his Q&A after his speech. You cant get it from the video, but the whole crowed was like whoa... The aura of the room changed which is something you cant get from the video. I even think a couple people boo'd him. I was in shock to hear him say that too. His speech was amazing describing how the "American Imperialistic" faith trumps a persons own beliefs and that is why they cant comprehend 9/11 being an inside job and their government participating in evil acts. Not a single person in that room agreed with that statement and we were all kinda looking around like "WTF" it seemed kinda from left field when he said it. He might be an NWO recruit but we all know absolute power corrupts absolutely and the NWO no matter who they have will not succeed...

I also want to add that I dont think he is an NWO minion. I think that is just his personal opinion from his research. But who really knows what goes on under the cover of darkness, lol. I guess he is not aware of the new age man coming up here soon. We are coming out of Pieces and going into Aquarius. It is hard for man to understand sun cycles given our life span. The catholic church and its spin offs represent Pieces with the fish hat the pope wears for example. I think in the next few years we will start to understand and harness the power of water, makes sense given the fact that it is life. Either way he is waking people up and was able to get across the reasons why some people cant comprehend why this could happen. I cant stress enough to take the battle to the streets and spread the info. God = Truth, the people are the jury get them the evidence and let them decide. You cant win them all, but keep at it.

www.myspace.com/codydeeds

my street vids are here
www.youtube.com/rabidwhodey

rick's picture

Anarchism

Anarchists are those who advocate the absence of the state, arguing that common sense would allow for people to come together in agreement to form a functional society allowing for the participants to freely develop their own sense of morality, ethics or principled behaviour. The rise of anarchism as a philosophical movement occurred in the mid 19th century, with its notion of freedom as being based upon political and economic self-rule. This occurred alongside the rise of the nation-state and large-scale industrial capitalism, and the corruption that came with their successes.

Although anarchists share a rejection of the state, they differ about economic arrangements and possible rules that would prevail in a stateless society, ranging from complete common ownership and distribution according to need, to supporters of private property and free market competition. For example, most forms of anarchism, such as that of anarcho-communism, anarcho-syndicalism, or anarcho-primitivism not only seek rejection of the state, but also other systems which they perceive as authoritarian, which includes capitalism, wage labor, and private property. In opposition, another form known as anarcho-capitalism argues that a society without a state is a free market capitalist system that is voluntarist in nature. Most anarchists reject the claim that anarcho-capitalism is a form of anarchism as it is marked by authoritarian structures.

The word "anarchy" is often used by non-anarchists as a pejorative term, intended to connote a lack of control and a negatively chaotic environment. Because of this, some activists have self-identified as libertarian socialists. In more recent times anti-authoritarian has offered another similar self-identification. However, anarchists still argue that anarchy does not imply nihilism, anomie, or the total absence of rules, but rather an anti-authoritarian society that is based on the spontaneous order of free individuals in autonomous communities, operating on principles of mutual aid, voluntary association, and direct action.

http://www.reference.com/search?q=anarchy

theSaiGirl's picture

Basic primary reading on anarchist history and philosophy

The original "International Workingman's Association" included not only Marx, Engels and Lasalle, but also the leading anarchist thinkers of the day, such as Proudhon and Bakunin. ....
before Marx succeeded in driving out the anarchists.

Many of the first great union organizing drives of the 19th century were led by anarchists or anarcho-syndicalists/

The development of anarchist philosophy and attempts at implementing anarchist models of society
===========================================
Seminal figures in modern anarchist thought:

Proudhon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre-Joseph_Proudhon

Bakunin:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Bakunin

Kropotkin:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Kropotkin

Tolstoy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Tolstoy
============================================
Anarchist political movements tended to be strongest and most influential in southern Europe:

Especially in Spain and Italy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism_in_Spain
http://www.infoshop.org/inews/article.php?story=01/10/09/3191305

But also in the United States
Albert Parsons
http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5009/
http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/97/
The Haymarket "Riot" and its aftermath
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haymarket_Riot
The case of Sacco and Vanzetti
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacco_and_Vanzetti

The legendary Emma Goldman:
http://www.spunk.org/texts/people/goldman/sp001520/emmabio.html
http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_archives/goldman/aando/anarchism.html

The original IWW (Industrial Workers of the World), was basically an anarcho-syndicalist organization: Although it also included revolutionary socialists in its ranks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Workers_of_the_World

Murray Bookchin on Social Anarchism vs. Lifestyle Anarchism
http://www.spunk.org/library/writers/bookchin/sp001512/

rick's picture

God


Definition:
1 A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions.

2 The force, effect, or a manifestation or aspect of this being.

3 A being of supernatural powers or attributes, believed in and worshiped by a people, especially a male deity thought to control some part of nature or reality.

4 An image of a supernatural being; an idol.

5 One that is worshiped, idealized, or followed: Money was their god.

6 A very handsome man.

7 A powerful ruler or despot.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/god

UFO Seekers - man made orifices ready for your occupation and transportation to the next life. Centuries of brutal murder, torture and burning of humans made people pray to idols from outer space chanting "I do believe!" rather than face the inquisition or its pre or post predecessors.

zark's picture

NWO 2

and moreso;

technology emerged through the industrial revolution and this came through the changes in philosphical doctrine. The protestant revolution is being played as a cultural phenomenon when in fact the split from Rome was a facade. The corporation 'The Crown' continued albeit hidden behind 'sovereign nations', each with an appointed Chairperson i.e The King or The Queen. They headed the sovereign nation and functioned as the head of the protestant religious form.
The industrial revolution was part and parcel of the facade.
Dr Nutty is playing the game set forth by the architects of history. The protestant revolution was manufactured by the very personages Dr Nutty is promoting.
Its a simple game.

Also the idea being pushed by Dr Nutty is that world government would be good is another simple game. World government is already here. It has been for quite a while and now the PR agents are working furiously in attempts to convince one that is a choice.

Corporations arent beginning to rule the world, the corporation already does. Its the facade that helps people sleep through the day.

Is Dr Nutty part of the establishment --- well, hes a DR isnt he? Realise that earning a doctorate in anything is willful acceptance of the establishment. One becomes a made man/women. One is part of the big game. One played by the rules and earned a pat on the head by the corporation. He is far to educated to claim innocence. He uses his given title to the full and in doing so gives himself away. He is a Dr, proud of his award and proud to speak for the corporation.

zark's picture

anarchism and marxism

Read closer to the fundamental basis of these peoples who organised together under materialism.

The liberty of man consists solely in this, that he obeys the laws of nature because he has himself recognized them as such, and not because they have been imposed upon him externally by any foreign will whatsoever, human or divine, collective or individual

Sounds like Dr Griffin. Actually its the same philosophical doctrine as Griffin.
Nature rules man. Obey nature. --- and they call it a philosophy of 'free will'.////////

rick's picture

Many steps further

Griffin claims to be developing the theology to bond the cults moral issues into the one world order. Just as the developing church of cults has always done they work with the rulers to blend the "faithful" into the domain of the rule.

Freedom has nature in its definition. More like everything that can be done in nature. Defined only in the capacity for nature to hold one back, and that does not mean that cults or rulers are nature. Which is where theology and isims take you - defining and compositing "nature" and what you are confined to.

I remember one of the founding fathers claimed freedom starts with the open hand and ends when the clenched fist hits your face. That moment you impinge another

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